>>>THIS WEEK, WE ARE PICKING OFF A NEW SERIES CALLED “MAKING SENSE.” WE’RE GOING TO EXPLORE THE MYSTERIOUS AND AMAZING WORLD INVOLVING OUR SENSES. FIRST UP, WE’RE TALKING TO A NURSE NAMED MEGAN PULLMAN WHO CAN LITERALLY FEEL YOUR PAIN. IT’S CALLED MIRROR TOUCH SYNESTHESIA. LOOK HOW SHE LIVES WITH THIS.>>I’M GOING TO GET YOU.>>TO BE A NURSE AT ST. LOUIS CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL IS THE BEST THING I CAN IMAGINE. YOU’RE A STRONG GUY, AREN’T YOU? I CHOSE TO BE A NURSE BECAUSE WHEN MY BROTHER WAS BORN IN 1992, HE HAD A SEVERE HEART DEFECT. HE WAS TREATED HERE AT ST. LOUIS HOSPITAL. HE HAD TWO OPEN HEART SURGERIES. NURSING WAS AN EASY THING FOR ME TO GIVE BACK.>>Reporter: MEGAN’S DEDICATION TO HER JOB MAKES HER A BELOVED NURSE.>>I GET THOSE CHEEKS.>>Reporter: BUT THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT SETS HER APART. MEGAN CAN ACTUALLY FEEL WHAT HER PATIENTS FEEL.>>I HAVE A BRAIN TRAIT CALLED SYNESTHESIA. MY BRAIN HAS CONNECTIONS THAT OTHER PEOPLE’S BRAINS DO NOT. I HAVE A TYPE CALLED MIRROR-TOUCH SYNESTHESIA, WHERE I FEEL OTHER PEOPLE’S EMOTIONS AND OFTEN TIMES FEEL THEIR PAIN OR OTHER SENSATIONS AS MY OWN. ALTHOUGH TO A LESSER DEGREE. IF SOMEONE’S HURTING, FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY HAVE A CUT ON THEIR ARM, I CAN FEEL THAT THEY’RE SAD OR THEY’RE PROCESSING THAT PAIN IN THEIR HEAD. WHEN I VISUALIZE THE INJURY, I GET A FEELING ON MY SPINE THAT’S SIMILAR TO BEING ON A ROLLERCOASTER. IT’S THAT GUT-DROPPING FEELING AND THE ELECTRICITY SHOOTS UP MY SPINE AND OUT MY ARMS AND MY EXTREMITIES. ON ANY GIVEN DAY, I NEVER KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.>>Reporter: AS A WIFE AND MOTHER TO THREE SMALL CHILDREN, MEGAN CAN SOMETIMES FEEL OVERWHELMED BY IT ALL. AND IF HER KIDS GET SICK –>>JUST AS ANY MOM HATES TO SEE THEIR KIDS SICK, IT’S MORE SO FOR ME BECAUSE IF THEY’RE SICK AND FEELING NAUSEOUS OR HAVE A HEADACHE OR ARE IN PAIN IN ANY WAY, I’M FEELING IT, TOO.>>Reporter: OVER THE YEARS, MEGAN HAS FIGURED OUT A WAY TO USE SYNESTHESIA TO HER ADVANTAGE, BOTH AT HOME AND AT WORK.>>NOW THAT I KNOW WHAT MTS IS AND I KNOW THAT IT’S A REAL THING, I’M ABLE TO HARNESS THAT AND I CAN PURPOSELY USE IT TO MAKE MY PATIENTS’ DAY BETTER. IN MANY CASES, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GIFT BECAUSE IT HELPS ME HELP MY PATIENTS.>>PLEASE WELCOME MEGAN PULLMAN. [ APPLAUSE ] SO, I HEARD THAT THIS IS HEREDITARY AND THAT YOUR GRANDFATHER HAD IT. CAN YOU TELL THE AUDIENCE HOW HE FIGURED OUT WHICH OF HIS GRANDCHILDREN MIGHT ALSO HAVE IT?>>SO, MY GRANDPA SAW SOUNDS. HE DIDN’T REALIZE IT WAS HEREDITARY UNTIL THE GOLDEN PAGE OF GOOGLE IN THE ’90s.>>WHAT DO YOU MEAN SAW SOUNDS?>>IF HE HEARD A SONG, IN THE SPACE IN FRONT OF HIM, HE WOULD SEE A VISUALIZATION WITH COLORS AND SHAPES AND MOVEMENT.>>THAT CORRELATION BETWEEN A COLOR AND A SHAPE OR A COLOR AND A LETTER OR SOMETHING, THAT’S VERY COMMON. GO AHEAD. AMONG YOU PEOPLE.>>IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE WAYS OUR BRAIN PROCESSES SENSES, THERE’S SO MANY WAYS CHRIS CRISSCROSSING CAN HAPPEN. I DON’T SEE SOUNDS BUT I FEEL SOUNDS ON MY BODY. FOR EXAMPLE, IF I’M LISTENING TO A VIOLINIST, I WILL ACTUALLY FEEL IT DEEP IN MY CHEST.>>HE CALLED UP AND ASKED HIS THREE GRANDKIDS WHAT QUESTION?>>HE SAID WHAT IS THREE? AND ALL OF MY SIBLINGS SAID A NUMBER. AND I SAID BLUE.>>THAT’S HOW HE KNEW SHE HAD IT. THREE IS BLUE. AND WHAT COLOR IS “A”?>>YELLOW.>>OKAY. WE HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT. WE’RE GOING TO DO THAT AFTER THE BREAK. MORE, ALONG [ APPLAUSE ]>>>WE’RE BACK, NOW WITH MEGAN POHLMAN, A PEDIATRIC NURSE WITH MIRROR TOUCH SYNESTHESIA. WE’RE TALKING TO THIS PROFESSOR OF NEUROLOGY AT HARVARD WHO HAS MIRROR TOUCH SYNESTHESIA, WHO WRITES ABOUT IT IN HIS NEW BOOK “MIRROR TOUCH.” YOU CAN HAVE 80 TRAITS OF SYNESTHESIA. YOU HAVE ALMOST ALL OF THEM, JOEL.>>QUITE A BIT OF THEM. MIRROR TOUCH IS THE ONE THAT REALLY HAS AFFECTED ME AS A PHYSICIAN.>>WHEN YOU SEE ME DOING THIS, DO YOU FEEL THAT?>>YEAH. LIKE THERE’S A PHYSICAL LITERAL PHANTOM HAND MOVING ALONG THE LEFT SIDE OF MY FACE.>>STATUE OF LIBERTY?>>YEAH. IT’S LIKE MY ARM IS EXTENDED UP. IT’S LIKE A MIRROR. BECAUSE IT’S YOUR RIGHT HAND, I FEEL IT IN THE LEFT SIDE OF MY BODY. MIRROR TOUCH IS THE MIND-BLOWING PART OF THE BRAIN THAT HARDLY ANYBODY KNOWS ABOUT. RESEARCH HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE RELATE WITH ONE ANOTHER.>>1.6% OF THE POPULATION HAS THIS. EVERYBODY THINKS THEY HAVE IT A LITTLE BIT. IS THAT POSSIBLE? CAN YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS?>>WE’RE ALL ON A SPECTRUM WHERE ONE OF US, 1.6% OF THE POPULATION CAN BE TESTED IN A LAB AS HAVING MIRROR TOUCH. BUT A LOT OF US FALL ALONG THAT SPECTR SPECTRUM. PEOPLE THAT WALK INTO A ROOM AND TAKE ON THE NEGATIVITY IN THAT ROOM MAY BE HIGHER.>>WHAT DO YOU FELL ABOUT PEOPLE THAT CAN FEEL EMOTIONAL PAIN, WHAT IS A FUNERAL LIKE FOR YOU?>>IT’S VERY OVERWHELMING. EVERYTHING FROM THE GRIEF OF THE FAMILY TO JUST THE AWKWARDNESS OF EVERYDAY INTERACTIONS WITH HUMANS CAN BE OVERWHELMING.>>ARE YOU LIKE A HUMAN LIE DETECTOR? CAN YOU TELL WHEN A PERSON IS GETTING NERVOUS ENERGY?>>SOMETIMES. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK I’M GOOD AT DOING THAT.>>WHAT ARE YOU FEELING NOW?>>I THINK WE’VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF FREAKING EVERYONE OUT.>>YOU’RE RIGHT. ON THE PHYSICALITY, WHEN YOU WATCH A BOXING MATCH, GO YOU FEEL PUNCHES IN THE FACE?>>YEAH. IT’S — AS A BRAIN DOCTOR WITH MIRROR TOUCH, THERE’S THE PLEASURABLE EXPERIENCES AND ALSO THE PAINFUL EXPERIENCES, AS WELL. AND THAT CAN HELP US HAVE A DEEPER CONNECTION WITH OUR PATIENTS, INCLUDING THEIR PAIN AND CARE. THERE WAS A WOMAN WITH CEREBRAL PALSY WHO COULD NOT SPEAK. AND I WAS ASKED TO SEE HER BECAUSE SHE HAD BECOME COMBATIVE ONE MORNING. AND I FOUND THAT SHE WAS AGITATED BECAUSE SHE HAD BLOOD CLOTS IN HER LUNGS.>>I WOULD BE WATCHING NOTHING BUT DISNEY. MAYBE SOME CINEMAX. I DON’T KNOW.>>I DON’T WATCH A LOT OF BOXING.>>WATCHING CARTOONS, I REMEMBER WATCHING BUGS BUNNY CHEWING ON THE CARROT AND FEELING LIKE I WAS CHEWING ON A CARROT.>>HE DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO

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  1. I have synaesthesia but it's just getting words patterns feelings emotions textures tastes smells colours etc mixed up. It's to do with my Asperger's syndrome.
    I also have perfect pitch. Synaesthesia is common among people with perect pitch, but usually they have the sound to colour form where they see colours when they hear music, which isn't one of my synaesthesia symptoms.

  2. It's in the bible ,prophets had the gift Seer gift.many have this gift and dont know how to explain it,its normal to them.

  3. I really struggle with this to the point I hardly leave my home now, it can totally overwhelm me when I’m around a big group of ppl. I would love to know how others stay in control? X

  4. I have this ability as well. I can sense where people’s pain are in their back for example. If someone is experiencing a certain pain, I’ll feel a stinging pain in that area. Also, I am extremely sensitive to people’s energy , intentions, ( reading others). I’ve brought up random names or ideas that my parents would think about and it would freak them out Lol. My gifts continue to grow. I’ll be 27 in August and I also do pray a lot. It got to the point now where my energy can be very healing to some people. I somehow know how to transition my energy out to others whenever I would want to and through prayer. But at the end of the day, I know I for example was placed on this earth to help people somehow. ( hopefully being a psychologist)

  5. That’s crazy! I have always said that the sound of bass gives me anxiety, I’m extremely sensitive to other peoples feelings, if someone feels sad or angry it makes me upset (it may come off like I’m just really caring, but this is not my choice. I wish it wasn’t the case honestly)

  6. I think the issue is whenever a person with the condition sees someone else and that other person is having pain or they raise their arm, the brain then tries to imitate that person, but the brain doesn’t know how to express it so it expresses it through certain senses like touch and pain. Also I think it’s like a degree of pain, like if someone fell down the stairs it wouldn’t hurt as much for the person with this condition.

  7. My mother was a nurse and was told that she was to empathetic and cared to much for her patients to be a nurse. There was a little boy abandoned in the hospital by his mother, he had a cleft palette, webb feet and a dozen other problems, he was 6 and looked as if he was 3 and he couldn't talk but my mother was so affectionate to this little boy he used to smile and wiggle in his bed every time he saw her. She used to buy him toys, clothes and took him home for Christmas day so he wouldn't be left by his own over the holidays. No one would even look at him and other nurses used to ask my mother why she would even bother with him. When she started work into another ward she tried to find out what happened to him but the head nurse wouldn't tell her were the boy was. Still to this day we have his photos and she talkes about him.

  8. omg how have I never heard of this before?? I recently came to understand that I am an empath and was a little bummed but when I couldn't find any medical evidence of this.. guess MTS is just a fancier word for it! I can feel emotions and easily get overwhelmed in large social settings or in spaces with lots of people… I also can't stand anything violent like movies or videos without getting severe visceral reactions… so interesting to learn that lots of other beings have similar experiences.. I also believe that if we meditate more we can truly harness this power and heal one another from within <3

  9. 😳 wow, I’m not the only one. That’s crazy . I thought I was crazy . I have this but don’t know how to control it , sometimes . It’s emotionally and physically draining.

  10. I got told for a long time that I am just a Pisces which made me emotional, intuitive and also really feel music. It took until my early twenties to find out it was more complicated than that. A blessing and a curse I feel.

  11. I have a difficult time watching "fail" videos. Everytime they fall or get hurt, I have a physical jolt of electricity that runs through my body. As a kid (and still sometimes today), I used to have a difficult time watching movies with sharp objects (like fencing or swords) because it felt like my eyes were getting poked.

  12. Hmmm I wonder if when I watch a video and someone gets hurt if what I feel at the same second they are hurt is normal for everyone. When I see someone get hurt I get a jarring shock in my body. Does everyone or is that this thing?

  13. I was scared of this. I was just thinking about it today. How am I ever going to be a nurse when I feel everyone’s pain? Last week we went to the ER and the people in the room next to us cried out a very painful wail like they were losing someone that instant and I about bursted into tears. My bf has to talk to me so I couldn’t hear it but I couldn’t stop feeling drawn to their pain.

  14. I am so validated in what I’ve been saying for years about feeling others emotions. THIS is why I avoid being around so many people and negative people. I know all too well that electric tingle the nurse is explaining, that goes down the spine.

  15. I may have the one where you see sound as a colour – another channel (YT, not TV) did a test where they had a palette of colour an artist used to paint the sounds he heard. He used the primary colours and so had I (I was also going to pick out other colours he had also used. The odd thing is, I don't actually SEE it, but I know what colour I want to be there for the sounds I'm hearing.

    Anyone else got this?

  16. Wow, absolutely beautiful disease (lol) to have! GOD is soooo great! Very special gift! 🙏🙏🙏

  17. I have pain injured around my right chest but my dr and done X-ray, ct labs works they can not find anything. Can you tell me what wrong with me on my chest so I can find the right treatment for 🙏🏻😔-thanks

  18. I always thought my 14yr old was a hypochondriac but she just told me how she can feel the pain in her spine. I showed her this video after she told me that. So crazy. If anyone around was sick she would start having the same symptoms. Even when her teacher had knee surgery she wanted to go to the dr for knee pains. Now we know it’s whatever this is 🤯

  19. Wow I have aways visualized the number 3 as being blue too! but A for me is red, not yellow. Very interesting. I didn't know other people saw numbers as colors.

  20. Wow! So that's the official terminology for this. Dang! I have that with animals.

  21. I wonder if they can tell if people in comas and/or people on life support are still hearing and feeling. Or if they could help people with mystery illnesses get a diagnosis. So many potential uses!

  22. She should get out of the nursery & work the adult floors were half the people are in the hospital faking illness just to get drugs…..she'd be useful there

  23. Anybody read Octavia Butler's Parable of the Sower?? In addition to predicting a lot of things that a are happening today, the main character has this EXACT condition, except she calls it hyperempathy

  24. I was waiting for a name for this I can truly tell you it is hard but it is a gift God gave me AMEN & GOD BLESS YOU GOD LOVE'S ALL

  25. This was nice! I feel people's energy not their mood. As a teenager I'd say I dislike someone but now I realise that that person is not nice or good.

  26. This happens to me I've been having dreams because this happens to me because when I visualize I kinda feel pain so I have dreams about pain I got stabbed with a sword felt like I was stabbed with a knife instead of a sword

  27. Yes I have that too. This Nurse should lean Pranic Healing. All that is in it. The spine thing, that's the kundalini, this gift can be honed and she is amazing to have it and cope with it. Well done girl. I find it handy to know when I have healed people. xxx

  28. Ok a lot of people are saying omg when i see someone with a broken leg i feel pain. That’s not a gift. It’s normal. Your body is having normal empathy so you understand and feel the pain. Empaths are just highly sensitive people. They have severe “empathy”. I heard people saying you feel energy’s. which i kinda think is bull. If someone would pass behind you and you never see them then you won’t feel energy. You have to look at them. And you pick up on how they feel. That’s that “energy”. When i see someone hurt or uncomfortable i feel the pain to bc im extremely empathetic and obviously if you’re an empathetic person in general than you can understand how they feel. It’s not really a super power or a gift. What she has is her brain sees pain and the chemical recreate the pain. It not an “energy” or her just being extremely emphatic and feeling the pain of another.

  29. Megan show was great though .I didn't know she had some thought provoking episode's until yesterday.

  30. I feel for her and understand exactly what she's going through. I've lived with it all my life. After a while, you feel so much from so many people that you "lose" yourself. When I feel people's emotions, it's like they are my own. My ex husband finally asked me one day "When do you get to be you?" Because when I feel these emotions, I almost "become" them. I believe my mother was like this. It's very draining and so I tend to stay away from larger groups of people.

  31. Man! I’m so glad she doesn’t work in the OB, ER, or in the surgical department!! Now, THAT would be painful!!! 😲

  32. Omg.
    I smell colours.
    Or should I say, that scents give me colours.
    Music also gives me physical feelings.
    Man. 🙂

  33. I cannot rewrite my post again. But at least Know I am not alone. I am a retired RN (50 years now). I know exactly what is being explained. I was questioned and could not justify what I said so many times. I had a primo nursing education..nothing left to experience or do. BUT…that did not explain all of what I felt. Once a neuro surgeon took me aside and grilled me about what my notes had related. I was unable to put it all in scientific/medical terms…but…he listened. He asked…where did you learn this ? How do you know this ? He was genuinely interested. In the end…he just believed me. He kept asking me why I kept diving deeper into my assessments of the patient. I said…because no one else did and somehow I saw things.

  34. At 1:32 , I realized that I am exactly like her. Every time I see old people or people with weak arms or legs, I get that exact feel. This weird sensation really freaks me out, and this showed me that im not alone. I asked my father about it and he said he knew the exact feeling.

  35. I am also an empath but the visual needs to be real and not fake (eg CGI or Special Fx) for me to feel someone else's pain. I think it has a lot to do with awareness. I also think everyone could have this ability but unfortunately the majority of the population are unkind, impatient and just want to make other peoples lives a living misery particularily since the spawn of social media and smartphones. While it can be overwhelming sometimes, I am very thankful I am one. REMEMBER: There are only two kinds of people in the world….. those who want to be left alone and those who won't leave you alone.

  36. I have this, my friend once was going throught a heart break and he didnt want to tell me and i said "did you break up with your gf?" and he was so creeped out and i tried it on more people i knew that where angry,sad etc etc.. and one of my friends was like "yooo u got that syndrome thingy" he was high on lean too xd

  37. Why do human beings always want to be over others. Empathy? Great. Pnesthesia, psychokeneesis, and all those might be lies.

  38. So interesting. One of my sons sees things as colors. Like, when he thinks of someone they have certain colors and letters have colors etc.

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