– [Travis] I am incredibly troubled by this story, mainly because I am not a
big believer in at-home, it’s like you’re in the
lab mixing and matching and adding water.
– [Andrew] No and you could- to your insulin and that to
me is where the school has an incredible argument here.
– [Andrew] That’s troubling! They’re not comfortable
with diluted insulin, they don’t know what the
kid’s giving himself, then they’re liable.
– She could mix it wrong, she could contaminate it and-
– Yeah, Yeah exactly. – The sterility factor being done at home. – So is the school liable then? Because to me its a problem. – That is where I think the biggest issue in this case is. Is a school is now becoming a
medical authority in deciding whether or not the mixture is appropriate, whether is from pharmaceutical. And it’s a school. Their job is to
– [Nita] Well from a legal- to educate the children.
– perspective. It’s not to weigh-in and
this is where I think that. To your point, the school could be liable. – So that’s why the school said look until we get this figured out. – Right. – It’s best for you to not come to school. – And now what if you have
an eight year old who has a moment where he’s getting bullied and he gets really angry. And he grabs his medical bag and he starts taking the syringes out
to attack another child. There’s gotta be- There’s gotta be a part where legally when you sit at the table, a school and a family, that you come out with both
sides being a little unhappy. That is law. Any given day in America we have 30 percent of our kids that need medical
intervention on a campus. 30 percent of those students. So to get into a fighting match when we have the techonlogy where you can put a monitor on a kid and you can have an auto-pump that actually delivers the insulin. Without even messing with needles anymore. This to me is an issue
with the health care. – There’s a part of
this that just medically doesn’t make sense. And so in this case I
actually find myself siding with the school because, there are enough medical questions for me, that I’m uncomfortable with it. And it seems to me as it
would be as simple as, a doctor coming in to
this little arbitration and saying “This is what the kid needs”, “This is what its gonna be”, – This is how its gonna be done. – and if the parent says “Well no I don’t wanna- that’s not what I wanna use on my kid”, I mean what happens legally next? Because the school to me I understand they don’t want a scenario where the mom is dictating what the child gets, the doctor should be the one doing that. So what is the solution
if a parent refuses to comply with, can I call it the medical standard? Because it’s not the standard
to be diluting stuff all- and just
– [All] No. coming in this-
– [Andrew] Preparing your own – [Lisa] Yeah.
insulin? – No. – So where does this end? – I think you’re absolutely right. I think in this case specifically, the mom has a control issue over this, and there’s like- now we’re kind of invested in the battle versus looking at the
best interest in the kid. And in this state Utah, is the state that this is happening in, it requires two things. It requires a parent request, and a medical doctor that- basically endorses it.
– And that’s what’s missing here. The medical request. – Tough situation, I mean the mom has her hands full. Difficult disease for an eight-year-old. – What’s really interesting
as you’re watching this. Blood sugar control for
your child is so important, both acutely, if their blood sugar
is too low or too high that can cause acute effects – Yeah.
but chronically, if you’re not controlling
his blood sugars now they’re at a higher risk for
heart disease in the future. Blindness, kidney failure, and so these things really do matter. Lisa we love your opinions on the show, we really appreciate you
– Thank you. offering your advice. – Thank you.