(intense music) – I lost my pants again (chuckles). (record scrapes) (sighs) It’s us again. – [Lara] You probably don’t have to wonder how we ended up here. I’m Lara. – [Kelsey] And I’m Kelsey. – [Lara] And we’ve made so many damn videos about our chronic pain, we can’t even believe we’re
still talking about this shit. – [Kelsey] I’ve got trigeminal neuralgia. Which is a neuropathic
chronic pain disorder that was the result of a doctor’s mistake, who damaged my nerve during surgery. I’ve a fun-to-say anesthesia dolorosa in the bottom half of
my face, chin, and neck, which in Latin means, “numb pain.” So, my face is numb and in a shit ton of pain just all the time. – [Lana] And I’ve got a
shit ton of vagina problems. For the last 10 years, I’ve basically, had endometriosis, which
then developed vaginismus, which then gave me vulvodynia, which then was adenomyosis, which then, was pelvic pain disfunction all over, interstitial cystitis, I don’t even know. – [Kelsey] Damn, girl (chuckles). Basically, my face hurts. And Lara’s fucking vagina
hurts all the time. – [Lara] And these are not
things you can fix overnight. – [Kelsey] We’ve tried
everything from acupuncture. This is our acupuncturist,
OP, OP, say, “Hi.” – [Lara] Massages, surgeries, pills, sound therapy, crystal healing,
we’ve really tried it all. – [Kelsey] So, you could see why we’d be skeptical when
someone popped into our inbox, talking about a noninvasive, no pain, possible cure for our pain. – [Lara] Lasers. – [Kelsey] This serendipitous email led us down a YouTube rabbit hole that led us to find Carmen
Care Laser Center in– – [Both] Boca, baby! (seagulls squawk)
(gentle music) – [Lara] But it’s 2,000 miles away. – [Kelsey] So, we’ve got to figure out how to get from Los Angeles to Boco in the most pain-free way possible. – [Lara] Over the next three weeks, you’re going to watch our 12 day, hopefully life-changing journey. – [Kelsey] There will be
tears, there will be laughter. – There will be pain. I wanna rip my stomach out of my body. But hopefully, it’ll be worth it. (upbeat music) Going into this, when we first
started planning this trip, and first realized that we
are gonna go to Florida, and do this crazy thing, and like get this laser therapy, I never really once let myself
think, “What if it works?” Because I’ve been down that road so many fucking times before. And I don’t know, emotionally, if I can go down that road again. What percentage would you say that you buy it at this moment? – I’m gonna honestly say 50, 50. – I think you’re most
optimistic about this than I am. – I am ’cause I don’t have like a choice. I’m still in that optimism phase. – That’s fair, I’m like over it. – Over it. I mean, I am going away for two weeks, essentially just Lara and I, on what’s supposed to
be a life-changing trip. – It’s so hard to
comfortable on an airplane. I mean, for normal people.
– Yeah. – Add in some chronic pain. (Kelsey groans)
Will fuck you up. – The idea of being away
from my comfort zone, which is my bed, and my room, and where my doctors are,
and where my therapists are, away from my friends, I’m really nervous. – I don’t like being
away from my apartment, and being away from my heating pads, and being away from my bathroom, and being away from all the things that I know make me comfortable when I’m in that amount of pain. – I have been working on it with my therapist for the last year or so about traveling with the pain because I have become
a bit of an agoraphob since I started having more bad pain days. My biggest fear ever is having a TN attack while I’m not home. I have skipped out on
trips to amazing locations because I have been afraid of the travel time of the flight. Feeling like I have no control of the time I could or
could not be in pain, gives me way too much anxiety to follow through with any travel plans. – And in 2012, when I was accepted into grad school in London,
AKA my fucking dream, I ended up having to turn it down because of the amount of
pain I was in day to day. I think about it all the time, what my life might have been like if I had moved to London and
attended grad school there. I always thought that I would be living in London, or
like moving to Australia. And as I’ve gotten older, like, I’ve become kind of like a hermit. Like, it’s terrifying to
think if I had an attack where I’m passing out or throwing up from the pain on an airplane. Please, no. (upbeat music) – Without further ado, here’s Kelsey and Lara’s packing tips for traveling with chronic pain. (bell rings) Anyone with chronic pain can tell you that packing double is just kind of part of the traveling process. (bell rings)
(upbeat music) – In order to make myself
comfortable while traveling, I literally always go and
buy those heating pads that you can like wrap
around your stomach. I also always try to take
pills with me in my carry on. – A vibrator that’s definitely a sex toy, but I use it to help my jaw pain. This vibrator gets in spots that like no massager can get in. And next, that cradles my neck whenever. Physical therapy bands, massagers, pills. – To know that, if I was trying to take pain killers on the plane, no one would say shit to me. And to know that if
people knew what this was, and saw it in my bag, I
could possibly go to jail, that stresses me out beyond belief. But you know what stresses me out more? Putting myself in pain for 12 days when I know that there’s a simple solution that could help me. – Portable cover, pens, yeah, CBD oils. Bringing a bunch of books that I have yet to read about pain. – I feel like I have to bring this shirt. Seems appropriate for the trip. – Vitamins, my comfortable
socks for bad pain days. Heating and cooling pads for pain. Now I have to fit all of
this in a bag (groans). – This is Pepper. Sometimes when you have chronic pain, you kind of just wanna stay in bed, and you don’t know wanna leave. And so, it’s been really
good for me to have her. Because otherwise, if I didn’t have her, I don’t know if I would
get out of bed some days. – I’m supposed to be packing
for this life-changing trip. And as if on cue, everything hurts. It’s like trying to function with just a blow torch on your body. Sometimes I just wonder what
it would feel like to be– Just not feeling anything at 27. Like, packing a bag shouldn’t take this fucking much out of me. Okay. We must persist. – Sitting in the same position, or sitting on a hard surface causes me immense leg, back,
hip pain for days after. And I literally will pay lots of extra money to give myself as much leg room as possible. – Keeping myself a little
bit more comfortable is an extra $179 dollars that Buzzfeed is not gonna pay for. A girl can dream. (upbeat music) – [Lara] I think I’m going in 90% thinking it’s not gonna work and there’s like a little 10% of me thinking,
“But what if it does?” – My eye is starting to twitch ’cause I’m so nervous (chuckles). Morning of the trip, how you feeling? – I’m fucking nervous, to be honest. – Let’s do it. (upbeat music) Now normally, we would
be having some of that. But we’re trying to stay sober. – For the two weeks. – To give our bodies the best chance at being the best they can be. I think this is gonna be
harder than traveling. – [Lara] Our suggestions
for travel outfits. – [Kelsey] For people
specifically with chronic pain. – [Lara] Are as follows. – [Kelsey] Flat shoes because
when you’re already in pain, you wanna make sure your body works the least amount as possible. Plus, people that wear
healed shoes at the airport are like some sort of
mutant superhero people. – [Lara] Yep, and stretchy leggings because regular pants would constrict my abdomen or my vagina. And we aren’t having any of that. – A thick jacket to hide that endo bloat. And also, to keep my stomach warmer. – [Kelsey] Yeah, and you can roll it up, and use it as a pillow for your face. – [Lara] A sports bra to
keep your boobs comfy, especially if you have hormonal issues that make them sensitive as hell. – [Kelsey] Or no bra, that’s
just a personal preference. – [Lara] Before I get on the plane, I always put rub on my abdomen. There it is, baby. I try to meditate. And for as much as we did
prepping for this shoot, for weeks before hand– – [Both] We still forgot
some of the essentials. – You gotta get the good
one for only $40 (laughs). Lara decided to buy Dramamine because she doesn’t know if she’s gonna be able to sleep on the flight. As they say with chronic pain, better buy everything
at the airport store. And be safe than sorry. $91 just to be comfortable. (gentle music) (engine roars) I got the wrong kind of Advil. (gentle music) Two hours left. (gentle music) (laughs) We’re here. (Pepper barks) How would you say, comparatively, to other flights you’ve
had, was this travel day? – A six out of 10. So, I got up once to pee. And the lady next to me acted like the worst thing
I’ve ever done to her. So, I just didn’t get up again after that. And I wish that I would have. – Yeah.
– Looking back on it now. – It’s like we put ourselves in even more uncomfortable positions (laughs). – For no reason, like who gives a fuck? You’re on a plane.
– Yeah. – If I have to get up, you can move. – That’s how planes fucking work. So, I guess we’re just
gonna call it a night, and then get up early. – [Lara] And do it. – Do it.
(Pepper barks) – Yes, Pep, tell them. (gentle music) – It’s day one, a little
worried about Lara. When we woke up, the first
thing she said was nervous and should we even have come
and done this (chuckles). – It started to hit me, like maybe this is stupid what I’m doing. I don’t know if this is gonna work. I don’t know much about this lady. What if it like messes me up way more? I don’t know. – [Kelsey] Pep, did you go on a walk? We gotta go see if we can be
fixed ’cause we’re broken. Next time on Can We Cure? – The plan is, first
we’re gonna sit together, and I’m gonna really understand, where is your pain coming from? So, you’re gonna get laser
therapy for the pain. (laser buzzing) – Am I sexy? – Then we’re gonna do laser
energy detoxification. – Weird.
– I know. So, it’s like so awesome, awesomely weird. And then we’re gonna also do psych sessions.
– Fuck. – And then we can really figure out, okay, how many treatments
and what are we gonna need? – This could be the dumbest fucking thing we’ve ever wasted money
on (chuckles) for a video. Or it works, I don’t know. What the fuck are we doing? (Lara laughs) (lighthearted music)

73 thoughts on “Traveling When You Have Chronic Pain”

  1. I feel so terrible for both of these women. They’re both so strong, and I’m proud of their vulnerability and openness with posting these videos about their pain! ❤️

  2. As a person with Chronic Pain and who recently traveled 5 hours on a plane and 5 hours on a bus for my vacation. I feel your insecurities, I was absolutely terrified to fly and landed up forcing myself to sleep for the flight and bus ride because there was no comfortable position

  3. They couldn't have gotten seats next to each other? Would it have been more expensive? It would've be more convenient so they can get up whenever they need to.

  4. I am disabled and have lived with chronic pain all my live and im only 13 so I know what ur going through I’ve tried tons of medicine and loads of products that haven’t worked the struggle is real I feel ur frustration x

  5. I have chronic pain/chronic back pain. At first I had to go to the doctor everyday for 2 years I could barely go to school. They acted as if it was fake and I mean the doctors and the therapists. But then later the doctors found out I had chronic pain and conversion disorder. Glad they caught it before I became a vegetable.

  6. Girls I feel ya I’m 12 and have chronic pain from the knees down every step hurts and Three braces for my knees and two braces for my ankles and two orthotics for my feet to bed never mind walking

  7. I don’t even know what my chronic pain is from 😭😭 still trying to figure it out but I found out I have anemia, high HDL, high ESR and low hemoglobin and hematocrit! So basically just look like the worst you can when you go to the dr so they take you serious.

  8. Oh my word I had no idea a channel like this existed! I'm so relieved to see you two brave souls speaking so openly about chronic pain. Thank you for sharing your stories 💜💜 I feel a little less lonely now!!

  9. Nobody knows how miserable Interstitial Cystitis is, the only comfort is your bed and forums online.

  10. I travelled to INDIA this year to do my yoga teacher training and had to abandon and return to Aus, because of my worst flair up, im so heart broken 🙁

  11. I was diagnosed with TN back in December along with cluster headaches. Plus I have fibromyalgia. Most days the pain is ridiculous. There are days I can’t move cause the pain is that bad. Chronic Pain sucks!

  12. In my case the worst thing about my pain is , I have explain to people around me why am I in pain and some feels like I just sit inside my room becoz I am lazy…

  13. Currently there is no medication or physical therapy that helps true chronic pain (ie; inadequate pathology to explain it) and that psychological strategies such as CBT or mindfulness make little or no difference. We need to actually switch the pain off, but first people need to know that even though the pain seems to be coming from a particular point, it's actually being produced by the brain. https://www.sdrtherapy.org.

  14. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  15. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  16. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  17. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  18. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  19. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  20. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  21. I have nothing compared to you guys, but I've had on and off pain for 3 years but I haven't gone to a doctor or anything because I'm scared lol. the pain is starting to really take over my life, it's a pain on one side of my face at a time, e.g. rn the right side of my face is mildly in pain but it can get alot worse than today and sometimes it'll be the left side, then others I'll have no pain at all. It's really confusing and painful but I'm trying to get through it who painkillers and those pain relief meditations. Does anyone else experience the same as me? I don't think it's chronic but I really want to know if there's someone who goes through the same thing

  22. im just now watching this video and I live where they went which is incredible, i dont mean state or section of the state i mean down to the city!

  23. For those taking narcotics, breakthrough pain might be a sign that the body is developing tolerance to the narcotic.For details please visit here https://naturalsynergycure.com/go/

  24. Thank you for sharing ! Because I felt alone in this ! I have endometriosis the doctor gave me antidepressants to treat it ! I’m like what?? So now I’m in stage 3 kidney failure so now my flare ups affect my kidneys ! When I get my period I can’t get out of bed hardly I have lost jobs by taking off work ! Now I stay at home but my days feel like I’m a prison to my house .. every thing you described is happening to me too ! I hardly leave the house and I’ve tried tons of treatments but I have to say that Ayurvedic medicine helped with weed of course . But it just lessons the pain… not take it away .. muscle relaxers is the only pain med that works but I took so much pain meds for 10 yrs trying to be comfortable that I lost my gallbladder because the pills poisoned it ! Now I’m 42 woke up two days ago in immense pain and had to take a muscle relaxer and zombie 🧟‍♀️ out ! So sick of it ! But I don’t think doctors help either enough . Or maybe I’m too far gone.. some days I feel like a horse that needs to be put down… thank god for my little dog boo boo he really stays with me and knows I’m not well . He lifts my mood with his cuteness . Thanks for sharing your stories I hope more men watch this so they can understand too ! Men don’t really understand because this doesn’t happen to them. But they also get tired of dealing with it. It’s really hard on a relationship too ! Love and light to all and may you find healing you need!🙌🙌🙌⭐️⭐️⭐️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹

  25. Going to Tennessee in a van fml luckily the people in my van are allowing me to sit in the second row witch has the most space and and so my legs can stretch more

  26. It’s crazy to think so many people suffer from chronic pain and you can’t even tell. It’s an invisible disability in a sense. I wish there was more we could do for people with different kinds of chronic pain. Even if it was just providing more government resources for people.

  27. I have the same feelings as Lara but I don’t have chronic pain in the same place as her. I go to the hospital because of my pain. I am always in pain by the age of 12. I also throw up from the pain. But when I have pain an ice pack helps. I will put an ice pack straight on my stomach for and hour or two every day. My life sucks!

  28. chronic pain leaves me in bed, what is even worse is not having a diagnosis. I hope one day I can spend a week without pain.

  29. I’m 13 and I have bad foot, hip and back problems and it’s art for my to stand or walk for more than an hour. It’s sucks cause I used to do sports and run and I have fun but now I can’t do that. The first doctor I went too was going to cut the tendons in my feet to “help” me, the second said I was fine, the third finally helped me by getting me insoles but those messed my feet up. Now I go to the chiropractor and he helps. It hurts so bad to travel but everyone says I’m a wimp. When I sit on planes my legs go into a numb pain or they just hurt and hurt my back. I just wish people would talk about it more because I feel like I’m the only who can’t do regular things.

  30. I was born with my undiagnosable chronic pain it grew worse as i get older now i can barely lift my arm without my joints hitting each other

  31. Can you please do an update on the laser therapy like did it work? How many times have you gone back? xx

  32. This is such an important video! I suffer from rheumatoid arthritis and PCOS and feel for the girls. Nothing worse than suffering every single day. This video is great to show you're not alone. Thank you.

  33. I used to get chronic pain with my chiari malformation for 10 months
    Luckily brain surgery fixed it. I cannot believe how strong u guys are because u can't fix it. (I hope u find a way soon!)

  34. For those that are saying Kelsey's doctor needs to be sued etc…. there is a difference between a mistake that is considered negligent , and what happened to Kelsey.There are many nerves that run through the face and damaging a nerve is risk that is assumed with having certain procedures . That's what all the fine print is about when consent forms are signed . I had a major facial surgery when I was 12 – well is was actually on my sinuses due to polyps. I had to be cut under my lip and up through the sinus and my cheek bone had to broken to access the sinus cavity . These days the procedure is more advanced and easier but this was years ago. I can recall the procedure being explained to my mom and the surgeon saying I could end up with facial paralysis due to nerve damage. Many years later I have numbness in that area of my face but that's it – thank God. People need to realize there are always risks and you have to weigh the benefits vs the risks when have a procedure

  35. 3:53 I can relate so much, it sucks having to turn down your dreams because of pain… and people just don’t get it, one thing that helps me is to try and believe it’s taking me somewhere and go with it, when life doesn’t meet my expectations I let go… it’s easier

  36. My dad just had surgery which he had Kelsey’s trageminal neurogela and he also has cluster headaches which basically he had a surgery where they inserted a balloon near a nerve to block the brain from sending pain to the nerve

  37. “…I have become kind of like a hermit” I’m so sad. This is me, I have had widespread body pain for so many years and then last yeah was finally diagnosed with severe widespread fibromyalgia 🙁 what it does to your body, my mind isn’t what it used to be, I was sharp and clear now I’m slow and foggy. And I don’t leave my house ever. Because I’m just trying to survive day to day and that’s not living. I had dreams and things I wanted donand places to see and a trip to the grocery store is as much labor as it was when i used to go swimming then school then gym then work. It takes away so much from you and people don’t get it. I wish I was what I used to be, I’m but a ghost of my past self.

  38. Omg this is me when I travel. I’m 23 and have had chronic pain for 6 years. I relate to this and think they are so courageous For doing this.

  39. Anyone that has chronic pain needs to look at the Instagram page by Medical Medium to see thousands of testimonials/ before and after photos of people that healed their pain.

  40. I have a neurological disorder called Fibromyalgia. Basically feels like a toothache in your body. Lady Gaga was diagnosed with this. I had IC and Endometriosis. Enjoyed this video today. Stuck in bed with heating pad. Bad pain day. I wish I had the courage to talk about this kinda stuff.

  41. lazar therapy is a common thing to do I did it for a while and found I works really well but they probably could have found one in L.A.

    I don’t mean to sound negative though

  42. They should of kept this series going as someone who surfers from chronic pain … I was hoping to see what some of these treatments are like … I have fibromyalgia my whole body hurts from may hair to my toes …

  43. Just found your channel. I'm in my 50s and have had chronic pain/illness since 18 years old…so I understand all you mention in this video. We traveled 7 months in 2017 which I recorded. I did not know HOW I was going to do it…but I told myself…if I had to drag myself across the airport..that is what I will do…I survived and so glad I did it. Now I sit here at home resting up for the future…hoping I can travel again. Love your fun channel! Don't ever give up. xoxo – Melody

  44. I've been dealing with spinal injuries and excruciating chronic pain for more than 5 years. 6/7 days a week I lay in bed not being able to move, my head pounding and my limbs weak. I have tried everything and the only thing that helped me was a massive painkiller injection once or twice a day. But it doesn't help me anymore because my system got used to it. This is not a good life, not even a mediocre one! The fact that I'm not alone makes me feel better though. I'm patiently waiting for my surgery, I hope it goes well

  45. I have scoliosis, EDS, POTS basically I have a curve in my spine. I have chronic pain joint hyprmobility. Dizziness, fatige, fainting and Im going on a road trip in about a week and very nervous.

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