– Previously on Can We Cure. My therapist told me that I should try and write a letter to the
doctor who did this to me. – I don’t want to say it
because I’m scared to jinx it but I think the lasers work. (upbeat music) – I cannot believe we have
been here for two weeks. I mean we have gotten so close with Leslie and her entire family. She doesn’t even really
feel like a doctor, she just feels like a
friend to us at this point. Do you know how many
people think your daughter has saved their lives
and changed their lives? – She’s told me about some of
them, yes, yeah, absolutely. – [Kelsey] How has your emotional
life changed since laser? – Since laser?
– Yeah. – Well, I mean pre and
post, I didn’t have a life, I just didn’t, I was in
a constant state of fear. I was constantly worried the next thing was gonna trigger it, it was like walking on
eggshells for your whole life. – My migraines and all of that started when I was in my early teens
and I’d say around 18, 19 is when I started to become
like almost bedridden. And I would go to college
and I would go back to my apartment and I wouldn’t leave and I had no life whatsoever. – The first five years it
was one headache a night at one o’clock in the morning,
it was like clockwork. So I spent three months a year sitting up in a chair to sleep. And if I moved just a certain way, bingo, another headache would start. – Nobody understand the pain,
I’m gonna cry right now. But you know how it feels, right? – [Kelsey] I do. – Nobody freaking knows,
unless you’ve done it. – I cannot even imagine
doing this for three years. – Why does everyone cry
when we talk about your mom? – Her daughter had TN and she
was able to help her daughter and so for her it’s
like this is a mission. – Since I was diagnosed,
she was on the computer, every single website,
I could just see her. Sometimes I’d see her crying, sometimes I’d see her throwing papers. – The more I researched, the
more my heart was just aching but I was determined and thankfully we got something, we found something. – I mean I’ve watched her go on a Sunday, you’re gonna be going to
Miami and helping people and not taking any money. She said mom, they’ve suffered
enough, I have to help them. And that’s just how she feels and I’m proud of her
for that, I really am. Some people have said, do you
really think you can help me? And I say I believe it in my heart and if we don’t have the belief
anymore, what do we have? When nobody was able to help
Lee, I was able to help her. – My grandfather, he wanted
us to open up a clinic and we opened one up and we
were just treating people and people were getting better. Like with backs, elbows,
knees, everything, like they were just getting better and we were like holy cow, this is crazy. – I wasn’t expecting
to find so many people that I could relate to
and honestly know what they’re going through and they
know what I’m going through. And talking to these people that have had success stories
is what’s kept me here. – [Lara] How are you feeling today? – Everything just feels like hot ropes, hot snakes slithering up
and down my neck and face on my right side, which sucks. – This girl messaged me last night and said that she had
had laser therapy before and that it helped her a lot. And she was like, by the way, I felt like complete shit
before I felt better. – My back hurts, my jaw
feels like it’s locked. Can you tell I’m in a bad mood? You’re in a way better mood. – I’m in such a better mood. I was so skeptical going in like, I just feel like a weight
has been lifted off my chest. – [Leslie] What the fuck is going on? – I honestly have energy. – [Leslie] I am shook right now. – Me too. Yesterday I felt like complete shit but today I’m feeling better and I actually have some
energy, it’s kind of weird. – Pepper even feels good, right, Pep? What is happening? Gotta appreciate the
little moments, right? That’s two days in a row you’ve been in a better mood after treatment. – Maybe it’s working, bitch. – She’s on the phone, telling
her friend about the treatment and how excited she is,
so I’m really happy. I was worried. We leave tomorrow and
I still haven’t written this fucking letter to the doctor. – I am getting ready to write a letter to all of the doctors
who didn’t believe me because unfortunately I
cannot pin it down to one. – I’ve got some comfort food, macaroons, I’m gonna put on some
good jams and do this. – Dear doctors, this is hard to write. I came to you for the first time when I was just 20 years old,
I was scared and in pain. When I finally got the courage to see you, you downplayed my symptoms and feelings. It took me over five years to be told what was going on with my body and I will never get those
years of my life back. – [Kelsey] Dear doctor, let’s just get the nasty stuff out of the
way, you ruined my life. I wish I could say you’ve given me the confidence to know that I can have the worst pain in the world
and still live despite it. But I have met and heard stories about other people living
with chronic illness and learning that there is hope. That maybe my purpose in life is now to connect with other people
who have chronic pain like me. You never gave me that, no,
I learned that on my own. – [Lara] I no longer need your validation, I don’t even really want your remorse, I just want you and all
doctors to be better and I want to let this go. I forgive you with all of my heart and I thank you for forcing me to find out how strong I really am, Lara. – As much as I don’t want to and as long as it’s taken me, I
forgive you wholeheartedly. With love and pain, Kelsey. I hope that they show this
at like doctor schools, med schools and shit about like just being careful what you say
around people with chronic pain. Because it can really have an affect on like how you view your
ability to get better and if you live everyday with zero hope that you’re gonna get
better, you never will. – There are strength in numbers and once we start talking
about the issues that ail us and demand answers, like we will get them. I believe you, other
people will believe you and your pain is very real. And the more we talk about it,
the less there will be pain. – [Kelsey] It’s our last
night with Lee and Leslie. – It’s so sad. – [Kelsey] And we got
our lasers and so now we get to use these when we go back to LA. – [Lara] And on the plane. – And on the plane and it’s portable, in the car, you can literally
use this thing anywhere, it’s like the size of a cellphone. Let’s get a family photo, cheese. I’m leaving with a renewed
sense of faith in people. With people like Leslie, who
are trying and not giving up and dedicating their entire life, her family, everything she’s had to do. She’s helping so many people. – She’s great, like she’s just like. – She’s great. – If nothing else, like just
having someone validate you and be like your pain is real. – That’s irreplaceable,
you can’t pay enough money. – No, yeah. – Go team, all for one,
one for all or some shit. Okay, you have to let go now. (laughing) We would have just stayed
there forever, bouncing around. Coming into this, I
thought I was gonna be here and in two weeks, I would
be leaving pain free. That’s what I told myself
was best case scenario. Worst case scenario, I
prepped myself to come here and get the treatments
and actually have it like stir up the pain more
and have some attacks. The worst case didn’t happen,
the best case didn’t happen but it’s worked for so many people, so like it has to work, right? (upbeat, pleasant music) – I honestly cannot believe
that I am out of bed right now, three hours after starting my period. It is officially day two of my period and I’m getting ready
to go on a hike, a hike. I woke up with little to no bloating. This probably hasn’t
happened to me in 10 years. I’m hoping that this is the new normal. – Oh my god, okay, our
lasers just came in the mail and they’re like the big legit ones. Big laser got here, laserin. I think it’s gonna take a much longer time for me to see any results. I can’t help but obviously be
like sad and a little jealous that it didn’t work super
noticeably different for me. – I think the laser, it
definitely can do something and it’s showing. – You guys, I’m having
one of the best days that I’ve had in months. – You are much more willing to, you know, do other things while
you’re on your period instead of feeling like
you can’t do anything and that’s been pretty great. – I’m thinking about cooking dinner and then taking my dog to the
pet store to get a new leash. Like I actually want to
go out and do things. On one hand it feels totally normal to have this much energy
and be this happy right now but on the other hand I’m
like, who the fuck are you? Because this isn’t Lara but it is now. – Guess what, guys? I’ve started dating someone
and he’s really great and I care about him a lot. I never thought it would be possible to be in a relationship
at this stage in my pain. The point is, is that instead
of burning the letter, which I have printed out right here, I’m gonna actually fucking
mail it to this doctor. This guy that I’m dating has
really given me the confidence to mail this to him, like
what do I have to lose? I’m scared. – [Jared] No need to be scared. – The mailbox is coming up
but I’m gonna shit myself. Lara said to me once, what if this doctor is still out there doing this to people? And I feel like if this
letter can make him rethink every fucking cut and stitch and movement and
consultation and suggestion and prescription to someone
else, it’s worth it to me. – Yep. (heartfelt music) – I feel better that now it’s not, like it’s not in my control anymore. I put it out there and
now it’s not mine anymore. So I made an appointment
with a new doctor, who is a bite specialist who works with neuromuscular dentistry. I felt like making a new
appointment with a new doctor, trying a new technique would just mean that I was giving up on the lasers and I’m not because I’m still using it. – So because I think the detox is actually doing something for my life, I just booked another trip to go back and get detoxed again this summer. I just feel like it’s something
that I believe in now. Even if this isn’t a
cure and even if it’s not gonna work for every person’s body, because everyone is different, I feel hopeful again and having
that hope in my heart again is worth so much more to me than what I thought going into this. – I’m not giving up, my goal really is to just try and help other people find ways. So if I have to keep on trying shit to show people that there
other options out there, then I’m gonna keep doing it. – At the end of the day
what I want people to know is that there are always more options, even when it seems like there’s not. And they may not always be accessible but the more we work and the more we fight and the more we speak up,
there will be more options and we will all get our hope back, I hope. (heartfelt guitar music)

100 thoughts on “We Tried Laser Treatment For Our Chronic Pain”

  1. I have rheumatoid arthritis, and just seeing this and seeing the hope is so inspiring and relieving. I definitely needed this. Thank you for making this series and I wish you two the best of luck with your journeys. ?

  2. This has inspired me to go and try to get help for my own chronic illnesses, I'm tired of living this way and I'm going to see what's out there to help me get better.

  3. this is just… how do i explain? i feel so happy when i see somebody that WAS in pain but now they feel way better its just idk it makes me cry everytime i see one of these videos! continue believing and you WILL find a cure! i am sure!

  4. I also struggle with chronic pain. It was 8 yrs of thinking maybe it was in my head. Had to be 20+ doctors couldn't be wrong… right? Thank you for putting this out there.

  5. I cried during this video whenever they said things like "I believe you, and someone out there will believe you", and I'm starting to realize that my chronic pain actually isn't just me being…a wimp, I guess. Thank you you guys. ❤ best of luck

  6. As a future medical provider, I promise to do my best to advocate for all my patients, especially those with chronic pain. ????

  7. That makes me so happy that u can overcome and live and strive after such a horrible experience and I hope u have great time living your best lives. And Kelsey tell that doctor who’s boss!

  8. I live in chronic pain. I have 15 degenerative diagnoses and most of them cause constant unending pain. I’m so grateful that you did this video. I’m so grateful, ladies. I wish you both all the best.

  9. I would want to share some information in hope it helps someone.Chances of getting pregnant with very bad endo, are very very close to zero. Nobody will stop anyone from trying, but it would be a miracle, as embrio demands a lot of an uterus through the pregnancy. There might not be a treatment or a pill that fixes things. But there is the operation to remove uterus and tubes, areas f the most of endometriosis cells and lining. Vagina is normally left behind, but it can also be removed or shortened. After the healing, there is still pain, as endometriosis tissue can grow all through the body. But there are no/or few hotspots of pain, as uterus is the natural centrum of the inflamation. It is called conservative hysterectomy. It is performed in a lot of cases of female genetalia – cancers. In Sweden severe endometriosis qualifies for it as well. There might not be an effective treatment. But you might be able to freeze your eggs, for the donor pregnancy in the future and live now, with a lot less pain.

    Thank you so much for making this and talking about Chronic Pain. It's not easy, and I appreciate you sharing!

  11. The pain from endometriosis is real.. I'm still struggling for a diagnosis.. 15 years of experiencing the symptoms. I had a year break from it because of another debilitating disease that caused my periods to stop completely. The fact that the only time I've had relief from my endo pain was becauseI suffered with another disease is bonkers.. I've never had a doctor listen to me.. I'm still hoping for a diagnosis from a doctor one day.

  12. I’m crying while in bed with excruciating pain. I’ve had chronic pain since I was 12. I don’t ever remember being comfortable. I’m watching this and I actually have hope and I am so thankful for this series

  13. Don't know if I should feel hyped and believe that someday I'm also gonna find a diagnosis for my bad period pains! I literally can't do anything during the first 2 days, it's been 4 years now and doctors say "it's normal", which I don't believe to be true, I throw up, have diarrhea, my body resist all types of medication… Recently been to an ultrasound, and all is normal supposedly. I live my life in fear because when they strike my life has to stop for those days, unfortunately I'm in varsity, academics don't stop!

  14. I'm a college student and I have multiple illness so I always have to take medical leaves in order to attend all the hospital appointments. But the Vice Principal of my college has the nerve to call me a liar. And it just pisses me off so much. Like just because you dont see my pain doesnt mean I'm not in one..

  15. Im 18 and I have chronic pain, sometimes ambulance comes and takes me to hospital but they never find anything. Somestimes im even afraid to go outside beacause if I fall Then there's no way I can stand up myself means I can literally die in winter. This thing looks awesome

  16. I had gone out for a day of walking around Boston and when I got home I sat down and wasn’t able to get up and walk again for two days and the week after that I had to wear compression to walk properly and it still hurt very bad. I asked my doctor for an ultrasound on my leg because of my blood disorder and he told me I was crazy and that I just tore my calf or something and I’d be better if a few days. By the second week I went to a different hospital and they agreed begrudgingly to do an ultrasound and found two blood clots in my leg that had moved from my Lower calf to my thigh and they told me I was luck I didn’t have a heart attack or stroke. So maybe doctors should listen to their patients they do spend the most time with their bodies after all

  17. I'm honestly trying not to cry in public right now. I have several health problems- leaky gut syndrome and scoliosis among them.

    My period started off schedule yesterday, no normal symptoms for me to be prepared. And today it caused my scoliosis to flare up, to the point where I was in serious agony trying and failing to walk on a treadmill for 10 minutes. I didn't make it 4 and I'm really angry and sad and sick of this, sick of my body holding me back.

    I want to go on a hike, I want to climb mountains and bike- ohmygosh I want to bike so much. And it's really infuriating having my body be unable to do what I want without pain, be able to go through my day-to-day without pain.

    I'm really glad this series ended happily, if they can find help maybe I can too. I was so upset before this showed up in my recommended and now it feels a little less defeating

  18. This is giving me the courage to finally go to the doctor and insist they do something . My list of issues is enormous. I gave into for the last year. Just gave up. I dont want to do that anymore

  19. I have severe interstitial cystitis and I want to know if you think it has worked for you. I am in pain all day everyday my whole life is ruined. Please get back to me it would mean the world

  20. Does Leslie have contact information? Over here not living, with Lyme's, I'm 25 with a three year old beautiful daughter. My whole life is passing by and I'd really like to reach out to Leslie . My own family doesn't even understand and I can't work anymore. Please lmk

  21. I’m only 13 but my life dream is to go to medical college. Seeing this has changed my perspective so much and I will forever know to be 10x more respectful to every single patient that I see and I hope that I can change peoples lives for the better

  22. I've had chronic pain for 20+ years! Somedays I am so angry and frustrated, that I just want to end it all! I am always scared to go anywhere, because that initiates more pain!??

  23. oh my gawd u can totally see the change in Lara and i am so happy for her.

    and oh my gawd kelsey has actually frickin sent that letter and i hope that doctor realises.
    anyone else shook when they found out that kelsey was dating someone coz she was complaining about being single and now look at her :0 🙂

  24. Thank you guys for doing this, you've given me more hope in the possibility of a future that is pain free/with limited pain. I may even try and get out there to this laser lady to try and get treatment at some point in the future to see if she can do anything for me. Thank you guys for filming this and sharing it with the public and the chronic pain community x

  25. I relate to this series so much. I wish I could follow both of you. I’m on my 24 and have occipital and trigeminal neuralgia for 6 years. I’ve been at a low point lately really thinking I’m going to be in pain forever. I have to keep going because I have a daughter. I was meant to watch this to somewhat restore my hope. Seeing people with the same nerve pain say they are better gives me hope.

  26. i'm sure lara and kelsey probably wont read this, since its more than a year after the video was published, but thank you both so much for sharing your stories with us. in both this series and the other chronic pain related videos you've done, your honesty and your hope is so valuable to me and others who experience chronic pain. i hope you're both doing well <3

  27. Buzzfeed keep making content with Kelsey and Lara. As a person with chronic pain it oddly helps to watch videos like these when I’m in the thick of a flare up.

  28. Thank you for sharing your documentaries. I am glad your being helped by laser technology and it is working for you. Take care and live happier more pain-free.

  29. I wasn’t expecting to cry during this. I have EDS and other things that cause me chronic pain and this gave me so much hope.

  30. This gives my hope that i can get better from my pain that i have hade senc i Was 7 years old and I am 15 now

  31. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  32. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  33. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  34. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  35. Check out my Experience with Chronic Pain after inadvertently overdosing on Oxycontin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hw37vMeGTc

  36. You got me to try cbd for my chronic TMD. I feel amazing now! Like a REAL person again. I also have endo but am lucky to have little pain except some during my period. All this to say that I identify with both of you. You are doing so much good in the world. I pray that both of you will be pain free one day!!!!!!!

  37. Are these two making any more videos?? They were amazing to watch!!! I hope someone tells either way ??????????

  38. I just found this series and especially Lara’s story really is inspiring. I’ve had terrible abdominal pain since I was ten years old. I still don’t have a proper diagnosis and it’s been five years. All MRI’s and CT scans and ultrasounds say I’m perfectly healthy. But when you have random pain in spurs that prevents you from even moving, you know that you’re not perfectly healthy. On to the next doctor this month and if it weren’t for my family, I’d have given up by now. I can only hope that I get some clarity and relief soon.

  39. Are there any sort of clinics like this in Australia? I am desperate for some help for my severe daily chronic pain. To try and get better is a very expensive thing, one which is impossible when you are unable to work 🙁

  40. This series was unbelievable at making me feel more included.. I have so many supportive people around me but they just don’t get it no matter how hard they try.. the doctors don’t get it either, I just get told to take painkillers.. I totally resonate with you when you said you get so scared of letting the pain win because I’m exactly the same. I really wish there were more series around that discusses chronic pain in a matter of fact way like you guys xx

  41. I don’t forgive any of my judgmental doctors. I understand if they can’t figure out how to help me but the amount of disrespect I and many other pain patients have experienced is unforgivable.

  42. When i get out of high school in 2 years i want to be i doctor and i will always believe someone when they say they are in pain and try to help them as best i can

  43. Anyone have CRPS? I have mine in the face.

    I had teachers tell me that it was all in my head, friends ( before they knew me properly ), as well as doctors.

    I’m gonna ask my nerve specialist if laser treatment is available for me

  44. My girlfriend has endometriosis and this is really inspiring to see that there are treatments that actually work for some people out there. She’s been to so many doctors and they’ve all either put her on a new med or told her there was nothing they could do for her pain, but this makes me hopeful for her

  45. Hi Kelsey, I´m a medical student and first of all I wanted to say to you, that I understand your anger. I mean the chronic pain controls your life and there was a concrete person who´s fault it was – in a way. But the thing is – doctors are only people as well and humans make mistakes – even doctors. Yeah, that sucks and it is worse than in most fields, because it is a human you make a mistake on and that person might has to live with it the rest of his/her life as in your case. But maybe he has mental pain out of this incident as well? I mean he has to live with the fact that he – in a way – destroyed your life. With the chance to cure, there is the risk to make it worse. That´s how it is. And no – you shouldn´t feel sorry for him. That was not the point of this post. But maybe you would feel better yourself and could live a better life if you could let go the anger. That´s why I wrote it.

  46. I just came across these girls while watching random videos as i procrastinate calling my doctor. I was diagnosed with pcos by a (crappy) doctor when i was 14 and i am now 21. Since i was diagnosed originally i knew there was more going on, things kept getting worse and worse and I’ve seen nearly 20 doctors throughout my teen years. I threw up every day in high school and no one believed that i wasn’t making it up to get out of school. One doctor i saw for a while had even responded to me talking about the repeated vomiting with “i hope you don’t get it in your hair” followed by no medical action. During those 7 terrifying, frustration years with doctor after doctor dismissing me it even led to my parents letting go of it all and thinking that it wasn’t real either. Just last year i found a doctor that actually knows what she’s doing and cares and found that there are many things wrong that didn’t happen over night. My mom is now my biggest advocate and i do not resent her for not believing me, because she does the hard work for me when i can’t bring myself to get out of bed. In those 7 years i lost hope and I’m still trying to find it. This month i have gotten closer to answers than ever before. It’s come down to 3 possibilities; a pituitary brain tumor, a adrenal tumor or Cushings disease. I’ve been sent orders to do the tests last week that will finally after this long journey of no hope give me an answer and a treatment plan. Something i never thought would happen. However all the mental trauma of this has made me shut down this week and hesitant to go take the test but after watching these girls I’m going to make that call right now because in this moment however long it lasts, i have a sense of hope and not so alone. I hope you and everyone in these comments well and may we all cure it!

  47. The "some doctors just don't believe you" part is so real, i had a psychiatrist tell me for years that i was just sensitive anda anxiety would come out for school etc etc.. In july i got diagnosed with bipolar disorder. If any med student/doctor is seeing this, please listen to your patients and first things first, 100% believe them. You'll never know what's going on if you don't put effort in your job.

  48. As a 16 year old who has fibromyalgia and pots symptoms. I have been told to stop faking for attention by people who didn't know me but I have wonderful parents and doctors who believed me and that I wasn't faking for attention and it was all in my head is wonderful

  49. It's nearly midnight where I live and this video was posted 1 1/2 years ago and I wish I would have seen this earlier.
    I'm sitting here and I am crying. I understand how much it is a relief for both of them to be pain free or have less pain.
    I'm dealing with chronic tension headaches and I just have 24/7 headaches and sometimes I do have pain attacks other then tension headaches.
    When Kelsey talked, in the second video, about having a boyfriend and telling them that she has TN and getting pitied. I understood, everytime I am telling someone I'm getting this 'ooooh I' m so sorry for you'. Or the fact, that you can't tell that Kelsey has a pain attack but with Lara you can tell instantly, as she said.
    I'm still trying to find something, that works for me.
    I'm so happy for them, that they found something for them and wish them the very best.

  50. No one thought that I was lying about my pain because I got it when I was 4 and like a 4 year old (at least me) wouldn’t lie I didn’t know what was wrong with me I even got a surgery which was unnecessary which costed thousands of drams and nothing helped until we found out I have this genetic disease and the only doctor that believed me was my mom’s best friend and he was the only one who finally somehow found out what was wrong with me after 6 years! I was 10 when I started taking the medication and meditating and it has changed me

    It was not a chronic pain plus people who have the disease get symptoms at age of 20 while I was only 4!

  51. They should of kept this series going as someone who surfers from chronic pain … I was hoping to see what some of these treatments are like … I have fibromyalgia my whole body hurts from may hair to my toes

  52. my mom has hyperhidrosis and when she was younger she could just hild out her hand and in just a few minutes there would bwe a puddle of sweat. My mom had a surgery on her. ack and her hand sweating stopped after that. her feet are still always sweating. she is turning 50 this year. Sending love to the girl with hyperhydrosis❤️❤️❤️

  53. 3 years ago my doctor made a mistake in a surgery and it left me blind and with severe migraines. I was 13. When my family confronted him he denied everything and tried to blame it on someone else and eventually claimed it was my fault for not taking care of myself properly. I wanted to sue him at first but as I got older I realized that suing him wouldn’t bring back my eyesight. Now I am sixteen and living everyday in constant pain. The medicine the doctors have given me for my migraines makes me feel like a zombie and I hate it. Hearing this video gives me hope that if they can get better and feel better mentally than so can I.

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